I just finished reading ten excerpts of dialogue from ten different plays. Everything from Martin McDonagh to Neil Simon, Shakespeare to David Ives. Quite a variety. "After reading all that dialogue," you might say, "you must have gleaned some tidbit of wisdom, some nugget of truth from the masters with which to begin writing." Perhaps. I have observations to be sure, but they are vague, and broad in their nature. The observation that currently presents itself in bold, block letters before my mind’s eye is that dialogue is all about rhythm. No matter the play, the thing that made it good, that made it interesting to read and even more interesting to hear in my mind’s ear, was the rhythm. It sounded natural, like two people speaking, rather than writing. I suppose that this is a problem common to both monologue and dialogue. Things often sound so different when they are written as opposed to spoken.
That looks so obvious to me now that I have spelled it out. No duh. Of course that’s the challenge of writing dialogue in a play, natural rhythm. And yet, if that’s the main thing, what is it that is so fundamentally different about Shakespeare’s dialogue as opposed to David Ives or Patrick Marber? Shakespeare, God among men that he was, had musicality (granted, partially a function of the language that he was able to use,) but still. Reading Shakespeare is akin to a really smooth merlot or a bite of the richest, most decadent chocolate truffle. It just feels good in your mouth and mind. Beatrice and Benedick have some of the most brilliant and successful banter in playwriting history. I think that part of its brilliance is that each line plays off of the one before it. Reading B and B it is impossible NOT to listen to what the line before you is saying because the next line relies so fundamentally on every word being in exactly the correct order. This not only creates rhythm and natural banter (a feat when using the language that Shakespeare was), but also makes it some of the cleverest, most witty dialogue in history.
David Ives or Neil Simon operate in a similar although much more modern way. In David Ives The Philadelphia, other than a few of Marcy’s longer lines, no line is longer than ten words and many of them are only one. This means that the scene moves really quickly which returns us to what appears to be the central point, theme, and problem of dialogue: Rhythm.
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ElleBelle,
ReplyDeleteI'm totally with you on the rhythm thing -- it's such a fundamental part of auditory mediums it makes sense that it matters and affects your experience of a piece. I was really weirded out by how my monologues sounded when performed -- it was so different than how they "sound" in my head. I think it would be interesting to edit a piece from an angle of sound and sounds, beyond meaning or syntax, to just consciousness of the nuances of rhythm. I totally agree with what you're saying about the similarities in pace of shakespeare and simon and I think that definitely relies on both the quickness of the tempo and also of the wit. It's pushing the audience to come with it-- it's not stopping for an audience to piece things together but demands them to be on their toes as well. I think it's also interesting that you consider B & B to speaking in "natural" banter -- an example of the disconnect between how people really talk and how to sound like real speech -- cause I don't think I've ever witness that rhythm of wit before. Isn't that sort of the appeal there too? That we don't get to hear (even in shakespeare's day) people talk like that? That real people aren't that clever? I don't know...
So, Ella, you've identified what works about these scenes (rhythm, pace, humor, natural feel, and connectivity); now all you need is how (to replicate it in your own work). Emulating Shakespeare is hard in lots of ways. But that goal of 'every line responds to the one before because these people are really talking to each other' is totally do-able. So is the rhythm and flow and speed you're talking about -- not on the first draft and not until you've gotten a few people who are not the voice inside your head to read it for you, but eventually you can do this too.
ReplyDeleteSo apparently computers hate me, if my blog did not already tell you this. I just wrote extensive comments and then tried to post them, and they all deleted. So I will try again:
ReplyDeleteElla,
I really liked your thoughts about rhythm, and I agree that is essential to a dialogue. In your comparison/description of Shakespeare and modern drama, I could not help but debate what percent of rhythm is essential, and what percent is artistic choice. I agree that there is always a rhythm, as this sets the emotional atmosphere of the piece. But it can also be used for artistic effect, it helps the playwright get across the story of the play by means of giving the audience a pace to listen to. In writing dialogue, I will certainly keep in mind trying to find my own artistic rhythm, as I think each playwright has one. It may very from atmosphere to atmosphere, but in the end a writer can identified by this rhythm in their plays.
-Hanna
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ReplyDeleteDearest Ella "Under my umbr-ella, ella, ella" Wrenn,
ReplyDeleteI also agree that rhythm is important in a play. When hearing the word rhythm, I first think of rhyming and a sort of "to the beat" tone (if that makes no sense, its hard to explain in writing, I'll sound it out for you in person)). While this is not what you meant, I think the ideas are related. The whole play doesn't need to rhyme, but each line should be a follow up to the line before it and have connection and a natural responce. While the play doesnt need to be presented "to a beat", the dialogie should have a constant pace, but speed up or slow down when neccessary.
In responce to your comments about the dialogue between B&B and how it is quick and witty, I agree that it is a type of conversation that you would never hear in real life. This has been mentioned in class multiple times, but the audience won't mind the "non-realistic" banter, because it is more entertaining than real banter, and as willing members of the audience they should expect that a play will not be 100% realistic and that some things will need to be modified to be entertaining.
-t ae why? El or are? Griffin.